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9 Months, 3 Weeks ago #20
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We own a small koi pond and water garden business. We occasionally write up estimates/proposals for potential clients for pond work. We are probably the most knowledgable in our field in our area and proposals can get quite detailed.

How do we handle those people that do not hire us, but instead use our proposal as the "blueprints" when they hire the cheaper guy (with no pond knowledge) down the street? Should we even let it bother us?
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9 Months, 3 Weeks ago #21
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It's a tricky business and something I wrote about in the Learn to Write Proposals blog here about whether you are offering a solution or just some free consultancy.

In a business to business situation I'd recommend a non-disclosure agreement to be put in place, but that probably isn't going to be practical in your situation. If you create bespoke designs then they are copyright - I'd imagine that it would be difficult to enforce any breach of that though - as well as being expensive and counter productive. However, I would include a strong copyright statement in the proposal.

One approach I have often used is breaking a project - and the proposal - down into smaller chunks. You say that your proposals get quite detailed, so you are presumably including a reasonable amount of bespoke design work up front in your proposal.

Why not break the proposal down into two parts? Firstly, the initial design phase and then the actual installation project itself. Explain to the client that your expertise is in the design and that this is charged for. You could perhaps say that any design costs will be discounted off the cost of the actual installation project if they go ahead.

To make this work you need unique selling points - reasons why they must choose you and not the guy down the road.

The benefits are that it's a low cost initial outlay for the client - after that you are just upselling and though the guy down the road may be cheaper you have an opportunity to sell your quality and skills in the design project. The other advantage is that even if they do use the guy down the road, you have been paid for your time designing the solution...and of course you get paid for the designs you do do, and not spending unbillable time on designs that are never going to see the return on investment.

One of the common questions with this approach is "How do I get them to pay for the design project, when previously this was included in a proposal?".

If you are the market experts, it should be easy to sell your knowledge and design experience as a design project - don't give it away. Clients should be convinced by your portfolio and recognised authority in this area. Sometimes, particularly when starting up a business it's tempting to give away more than you need to in order to impress a potential client. But if you are the recognised authority, then your knowledge is a commodity in it's own right and that needs to be recognised by the client.

If you ask an architect for a price to design a house, how many include the full design in their proposal? They don't. but they will include portfolio information, testimonials and a description of the benefits of working with them.

I'd be interested to know if you've tried this approach with clients and what their response was, And to what degree you feel you could limit the detail of a specific design in a proposal in order to win the business?

James
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9 Months, 3 Weeks ago #22
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I will definately check out your blog topic as it is something we struggle with everyday.

I like your idea of breaking down the proposal into parts. I will ponder this and see how I could apply it to our situation. Our proposals, while detailed, aren't very big.

We started charging for our initial site visit and consultation several years ago and this has seemed to reduce the number of "looky-loos" who were just wanting our ideas and had no intention of using our services. But it still happens to this day. And amazingly, it's large potential clients (hotel resorts, etc) that do this. If we offered "free estimates", we'd be doing them 8 hours a day, 5 days a week!

It's tricky to write up proposals giving enough details to satisfy, but not enough for the potential client to just use our proposal as a shopping list.

Thank you! I'm going to check out your blog right now --

Luana
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9 Months, 3 Weeks ago #23
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Some other thoughts about this.

The problem really isn't one of someone using you designs - the problem is that you aren't winning that piece of business.

So that makes two things to consider:

1) Qualification - should we bid for the work?
2) Value - even if someone else is cheaper, are we better value?

So how do you deal with these things?

The first one is by getting to know and question the client and evaluating the information that you have. In your case are you confirming a budget with the client and staying within it? Are you finding out how many other businesses are being considered?

Secondly, why is someone else seen as better value to do the installation? Perhaps this is because you have to re-coup your design costs - whereas if there were separated out then the installation costs would presumably be closer to the other contractors.

Think about USPs and what added value that you can offer in this stage that the guy down the road (who I'm guessing doesn't have specialist skills) can't. Perhaps a service level agreement or maintenance contract. Or a year's supply of fish food!

Oh, and if you are dealing with big businesses like hotel and resort developers then I would consider asking for an NDA - but still put a copyright & confidentiality clause in all your proposals.

James
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